welcome to both of you. jen, happy anniversary. >> yeah, happy anniversary, not. fox achieved what they wanted, so they can celebrate. they managed to divide the country, turn people -- turn families against each other and create a huge extreme republican base. >> you use the personal family dynamic, which i think a lot of people can relate to. of course everyone is free to watch and learn things and change their mind. your issue with your father was not that he became, i guess, more conservative or republican, it was something more than that. explain. >> well, my father was a really open-minded, loving person before. he loved to talk to people on the street in different languages. and when he semi retired, they moved to new jersey and he got a