>> who do you think -- i'm running over on time, but who do you think is the best messen messenger right now? >> i think biden can connect with real people when he does so. i think that is something he definitely can do and something a lot of americans would be very much open to. i also think, in the younger generation, aoc is actually very good on this. she does talk about young people, young families and working class families. she's also very good at that as well. i think both of them in tandem could work at making that message more clear for the american people. >> fascinating. finally, best movie on politics ever. >> "citizen kane." without question, it's the best politics movie. if you're looking at legislation