that the president told anyone who is working on ukraine, rudy is my guy on ukraine. and that rudy giuliani has represented the people, that he is the president's person on ukraine. so, they're inseparable. so, if rudy is to be held to account, that means the president has to be held to account. >> jason. >> yeah, you can't say that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. i think the critical thing here if we look at the stepping back, nancy pelosi said something really fascinated today when she said we're going through with impeachment. she was adamant about this not being political, this not being partisan. this is not about 2020 from the standpoint of switching the polls or getting undecided voters. it's about 2020 from the standpoint of election integrity. if you have a president who is established he will try to cheat if we don't hold him accountable for trying to disrupt the process, then we can't move forward. i'm pleased to see we finally reach the point where arrest the president, we've got the evidence, ooinl glad nancy