because that's sort of my job here, then why did so many people say under oath that the goal was not actually doing the investigation but having it on announced on cnn. this is sondland and others saying it wasn't about doing the investigation, that goes to what you just said but just having domestic political attacks on the bidens. take a look. >> he had to announce the investigations. he didn't actually have to do them as i understood it. >> this was a demand that president zelensky personally commit on a cable news channel to a specific investigation of president trump's political rival. >> and then, of course, there's also -- mr. sondland still works for the trump administration said it under oath to get the bidens dirtied up on tv, sir. >> yeah, well, i guess i would say is that the charges that