you heard representative jordan and others yesterday making a big point about the fact that the aid was eventually released. the meeting took place. but the bribery statute makes it a crime to solicit a bribe even if the bribe isn't actually paid and that's a point that should be emphasized all the time. >> it's such an important point you make. it's not pre-judging what the evidence will show, but you're defining the terms which is how a lot of court cases work and how an impeachment process is going to work. we heard a lot about people saying if he didn't pull off the whole plot, does that make him innocent? the answer was no. we were discussing whether governors would go to jail for this. trying to sell the vacant senate seat in illinois where he was governor and he had that power and barack obama vacated his seat to become president. that seat ultimately was not effectively sold because the investigation stopped i can't goi vich from doing it. >> that's right and that's a