we didn't hold up the funds. i ask you, is that a valid, factual defense? >> absolutely not. an attempted bribery is the same as bribery. in fact, what the facts do show is that but for the fact that certain people in congress, both republicans and democrats, prevailed on the white house to release those funds, not knowing what was going on behind the scenes with rudy giuliani and the rest of the crowd that was trying to get this quid pro quo for investigating the bidens, that money was released. it was only by coincidence. had they waited a couple of more days, it would have been effective. this was a classic attempt at bribery, no matter how you define it. >> you are a watergate special prosecutor. you have the unique experience of what it means to investigate a president. before i turn to heather, where do you view chairman schiff's strategy tonight focusing on bribery? >> i give it an a plus.