crumbling and falling down like the walls of jericho and i don't want to do anymore of this. so he's standing back. some people would like to believe that he's such an ethical presence that he wouldn't do this improper thing. but the people who come within the am bit of trump all do improper things at some time or another and barr is no angel evidenced by the clip you've shown and when he's been doing since. and we have 93 u.s. attorneys, all of whom are toadies to what he wants to have happen to protect the president while he's the attorney general. so i think this is a show of the weakness of the president. that the air is going out. that people are coming forward who we consider properly as patriots, who are telling us the truth about this corrupt deal, of bribery and misconduct. and all at the expense of the ukraines. >> very interesting. matt, i have a short question with a follow-up for you. okay? >> okay. >> in your time at the justice department, when you were, of course, on day-to-day speaking terms with the attorney general, eric holder, you were involved in all sorts of things, did you