sad to say. >> he was insulting. particularly to the speaker. she kept her cool completely. but he called her a third-rate politician. this was not a dialogue. it was sort of a diatribe. a nasty diatribe. >> i'm joined now by matt miller, who worked at the doj during the obama and holder administration. maya wiley, from sdny, and the daily beast's betsy woodruff-swan. good evening, everyone. matt, given all the inner branch interplay and something you've dealt with when sometimes agencies have reasons they push people from testifying or how they testify, what do you see here in what is widely being described as a stonewall crumbli crumbling? >> i think the most important thing that's happened over the past week is that we've seen that there are a number of people from the administration who have decided to put either patriotism or self-interest over protecting donald trump. and look, people come forward for different motives. i think there are some people,