>> shelby, you've been tracing a lot of these stories. >> i think two things jumped out to me in this indictment, one was the funneling of the russian money, but the other thing was that these two men were working to advance political interests of a ukrainian government official, allegedly. we did a big time line video at "the wall street journal" this week, and we laid out all of the twists and turns, particularly with respect to rudy giuliani and his role in pushing for these two investigations, the biden investigation, and the 2016 russia investigation. when you look at this time limn and you look at him flying to paris and madrid and meeting with some of the ukrainian officials he met with, he also spoke to the prosecutor, former prosecutor general that vice president biden helped push out. i mean, he's been very involved for a year in trying to bring these investigations and the dirt that he claims to have to the surface. well, now we know more about the two men who were giving him that dirt who were setting up the meetings, and they were working, allegedly on behalf of a