what he doesn't say is the word for word stenographer transcript which mr. frump has alluded to we've never seen. we have reports it was hidden on a classified server. we don't know exactly what the truth is. we do know what was turned over was not the full thing. but even that, as you were saying, even what was turned over is damming. it's forced the president to pivot from his first defense which is oh, the whistleblower is all about hearsay, i didn't do it, blah blah blah, okay, i did it, and now i'm going to do it some more. i'm going to do it overtly, and there's nothing wrong. >> what did you think for viewers studying up on the constitution these days of the attempt to say there must be a federal statute as a requirement to impeach. >> yeah, that's totally bogus. i read about this in "the new york times." that's never been the view from the founding on starting in the philadelphia convention of 1787. literally, there's not a single responsible scholar who takes that view, and that's for good