was it before the civil rights movement? was it before women had the vote? when was america great in the way we should get back to? the myth of the -- the golden age is always a myth. boris johnson right now in britain is trying to sell the idea of a golden age of england that could be restored if only all these inconvenient farmers would go away. mr. modi in india is trying to sell the idea of an ancient golden hindu age which has been ruined by the president and muslims. all three are doing the same thing. they're inventing history in order to justify the actions of presidents, and i think that's dangerous. >> it's a profound point, and it's also illustrative of the fact that if your campaign promise is nostalgia, you never have to be called on it because you're not running on anything real to begin with. >> exactly. >> you've given us a lot to think about, salman rushdie. thank you so much. again mentioning the book, "quichotte" is out now. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> and that does it for tonight's show.