that nobody believes anything. mulvaney sold out or as cashout explains on his song "cashing out," i'm cashing out, skate on my ice just like you playing hockey. grab your camcorder, press record and go and watch me. you know, we expect entrepreneurs to cash out more than public servants. mulvaney is clearly fine cashing out his blee beliefs for the currency of power. to paraphrase cash out one more time, let's press record and watch him because he sure doesn't sound like he used to. >> i think anybody who is up to speed on budget issues should be scared to death by what's happening with the debt and the deficit in this country. if you're not losing sleep over it, you're not paying attention. >> jamie harrison is actually running for senate in mulvaney's home state of south carolina and joins me when we're back in 30. >> thank you. joins me when we're back in 30 >> thank you get ready crab fans