Is just how the game is played. >> with a feel that way if it was angel reese who got knocked to the ground like that? >> she did get knocked to the ground like that, and nobody cared. sports are supposed to be fueled by hatred. i bad blood. by feuding. this is stuff that is great. part of the reason i want to buy stock -- business metaphor -- in the wnba beast because people are invested in it emotionally. it comes from having bad blood. the thing that is dystopian -- >> i love dystopian. >> is that we are talking not so much about the story and more about how everybody hates everybody else because they see themselves in it. and for me, it becomes a culture war story. and when i say it's an endless forever war of a culture war story, i mean, it is because in sports, we are still arguing