a factor, get test free and eliminated the barrier that standardized testing creates for under representative students and implement a really holistic application process. one that evaluates academic achievement and context, maybe gives credit for underserved and underrepresented to schools, consider school demographics, lots of ways that we can now try to maintain diversity in college campuses. and make admission process more equitable. >> debra, money grab a hustle of s. a. t. prep, we can do an entire show on that for another night. >> absolutely. >> it's unfair to another level. peter let's talk about what michael talked about a moment ago, this court overturned roe almost exactly a year ago, affirmative action was clearly high up on the rights agenda, what does that say for the right that they won these two massive decisions, decisions on things that all of us here had probably never thought would be in question in our lifetimes. >> these are two huge goals that the legal right has had for many years of course and many people thought they would