russian oil and gas exports are in a bit of a weak spot of the sanctions. we have to be candid about that. and i think that if the united states and europe do not increase sanctions on russian oil, and gas in the coming weeks the russian economy may well recover a bit. so i think that one thing i just wanted to let the viewers know is that this is a weak spot in the sanctions and something that we should be asking when and why are the united states and europe not imposing stronger sanctions on russian oil exports. >> if we do go to ten don't we forget that there's a lot of unintended consequences that could hurt us and other nato allies? >> of course. there are always unintended consequences. i think president biden has done a great job acknowledging that. sanctions against russia are not cost free. this is just sanctioning north korea, an economy that was already isolated. we have to also respect the challenge. but at the same time, ukrainians remain under heavy fire. and it's really challenging for