tonight's attack on this power plant, will it change the calculation, the privilege of this white house is taken? >> well, stephanie, the white house is very measured in the way that it will work with the situation, as well as with madam or putin's threats about nuclear war, as part of the military tactic. this is across the rubicon. what's led him or putin did, by having his shelling of nuclear facilities, violating national law, violating his commitments to the united nations -- that there would not be an attack on a vicinity for civilian use, he's kind of cross the pond and put this into a strategy. he's trying to, yes, scare and terrorize the ukrainian civilians. cut off their power.