one of the conversations like among you folks at the hospital? how exhausted physically and mentally are you? >> people are stressed. especially the nurses. the nurses don't get enough credit for what they do. they are the ones that are with these patients day in and day out. they're in the rooms, being exposed to the virus. they actually are sacrificing their own health, knowing that there is a possibility that they can get infected even though they've been vaccinated. the delta variant is so much different, the equation has changed. the viral load is much higher and the chances of breakthrough infections are much higher. with that, they are actually putting their lives and health at risk. the fact that we don't have the backing of our leadership is something that is demoralizing. >> do you have any insights,, doctor into what works in trying to talk to people who are unvaccinated? there is such a rising
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