host of the new york times podcast called sway. and in his spare time host of the podcast called pivot. with scott galloway, which exist mostly to give our friends got something to do. we kara, i'm going to assume that you have been through more of these documents then certainly most of us who are here to listen to your answer. i note, that mr. zuckerberg says that it is a selective lead, most leaks are. it doesn't make the material in them untrue but, good try blaming the media. how bad is it? >> i think it is pretty bad. as we've talked about many times, this is a growing problem for facebook on a number of areas. and i think that one that struck me the most, that this trove of documents, and by the way there are more coming. because there are a lot of them. is the obsession with stopping their employees from speaking out.