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hosts the podcast called "pivot" with our friend scott galloway. good evening to all. carol, because of today's news, i just saw on twitter before we came on air noted that the three evening newscasts all led with the facebook outage. he said it was the definition of addiction. i would also argue this goes to national policy, it goes to things like possible regulation, it goes to an attack on democracy and so on. but with that in mind and noting you know more about facebook than perhaps second only to mark zuckerberg, do you think today, do you think the aftermath of this whistleblower, the argument she makes and the documents she presents, is this different than what they faced in the past? >> well, it's always different,

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