more used to, unfortunately, seeing them. i think the steps they are taking are important most importantly probably is getting people into shelters, getting them out from underneath the bridge, 15,000 people living in those conditions under a bridge is not what we want to see. and then, quite frankly we have to go through the adjudication process, i would presume, tens of thousands of people are seeking some level of asylum. so, look, there's a whole practical policy that needs to be put back together, the asylum process came to a screeching halt under the trump administration. immigration courts are overloaded, it takes months if not longer to get a case up. there are a lot of practical things that this administration has to get moving through in order to deal with this as well as stemming more people from coming. >> this is confounding, just border issues in general, immigration's, the immigration,