defending these other interests and addressing these other priorities without continuing to be prosecuting a war in afghanistan. >> let me ask you about another take. quote, counterterrorism officials say the white house will be more lost than it suggests. all that, and we can't forget the fact that the taliban is a country that is both very poor and polarized. has the white house backed itself into a corner? how difficult is it going to be to achieve all of its objectives in dealing with the taliban, getting americans, getting some afghans home safely and protecting national security? >> well, i think -- you talk about a biden doctrine and i'm always hesitant to affix a bumper sticker to things, but essentially when it comes to terrorism, the argument he made