so i'm not one of those who think thinks that people are overreacting. i'm sort of with lindsey graham on the substance of this. but it's so discreditable to play that impeachment card the way he did. and i think you played seth molten earlier. some of the best criticisms sound tough but measured -- some of the best criticisms have come from democratic congressman, a lot of the younger veterans, like seth molten. but jason crow and several others, a obama state department official. there is a decent level of discourse in washington except lindsey graham, who knows a lot about foreign policy, and who i tend to agree with on some issues, who just can't really resist this ridiculous mentioning impeachment and turning it -- >> both of these gentlemen have agreed to stay with us. coming up on the other side of this break, when our