small businesses to prevent them from liquidating and turning this temporary shock into something more permanent. and by all the accounts, we could be in for weeks of red tape and finger-pointing where the banks say the treasury didn't give them what they needed, the treasury says it was the sba's fault and the sba says the treasury is bigfooting them out of the problem. >> karen, this is where you come in. i'm guessing you're going to say it is as important to get this sba money out so that people remain employees of something as it is the direct aid to employees. >> well, this is a really big day for small business owners because as you just noted, half the people who work in this country own or work for a small business. so that is one of the things that is behind these really big unemployment numbers that we're talking about. and now we've got this huge fire hydrant of money sitting at, you know, sba and treasury, and the