quite a real stunning statement and inexcusable. now, look, you're right. what we really need is clear and crisper messaging from cdc and some empowered messaging from cdc on things like should everyone in the country be staying at home? answer, yes, we all should be except for essential workers who are doing the essential tasks. and should we have a national standard on face masks and other things like that? obviously there are huge gaps here, and this unevenness is leading to uncertainty. in the public like dr. gupta discussed in your first segment. more importantly it's leading to real uncertainty about what state and local government should do. that lack of clarity is a real problem in a response where what the president's basically said is, governors, you're in charge. and they need direction on what they should be doing when they're put in charge. >> ron klain, thank you for always answering the bell when we call, and please look forward to many more as we're going to need to talk to you throughout this thing. our thanks to ron klain for joining us against tonight.