it very well. i think we'll see that same sort of an approach from chief justice roberts. he'll be more of a custodian than he will a trial judge, and even if he were to take some sort of a more activist role, perhaps trying to interject some of the fairness concerns that democrats will raise, it would only take a vote of 51 senators to overturn any decision that he makes. so the chief justice will be well aware of this, and i think he'll use his power very sparingly. >> in terms of that question of if there's a trial, beth, what that trial would look like in the senate, that's obviously the source of a standoff right now. we played a bit of that ad. this is a republican group, republicans for the rule of law is running, trying to bring susan collins toward the democratic side on that question of the rules there, maybe ultimately on the question of trump's fate. i'm curious how much pressure really politically could be brought to bear from that side on somebody like collins, somebody like cory gardner,