people and an aggressive play in their districts to really put the pressure on them to vote no on impeachment. so i think this is a crack in the white house strategy, that they're not getting as many democrats to flip. i mean i think part of the confidence comes from what john was just saying. we know how this story ends, which takes out some of the drama. we know the senate is not going to convict. mitch mcconnell said there will be no daylight between the republican senate and the white house in terms of strategy here. but as you said, it doesn't take sources always to know what the president is thinking in this white house. he lets us know in tens or hundreds of tweets a day. >> yeah, perhaps during the course of this broadcast in fact. so, jeremy, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you. how many defections do you think we're talking about in the house? and go ahead and rampantly speculate about any crossover in the u.s. senate. >> mm-hmm. yeah, our favorite game here as journalists, brian.