a dual question. what happens in 2020 when people go to vote and what happens before that in the u.s. senate if this is a trial that is laid at their doorstep? do you buy the theory that john bolton could be the game changer when he walks in the door and if he testifies as a witness? >> well, i don't think this is over yet. the normal rules of politics are and we're seeing it right now, the tribal loyalty trumps everything else. the pressure is going to go up. the polling is going to get worse. that's going to drive a lot of this as some of the senators who are in tough races, and the universe is expanding under trump, and they're looking at what just happened in two more governorships, i don't rule out there would be some defections in the name of survival. i think what's more likely is