donald trump. but i also think it's important to know that the house judiciary committee still will play a critical role in drafting those articles and in probably being the place where the president's lawyers get the first chance to make that case directly before congress. >> i think that's fair to say. and would you also, if you were advising this process, would you recommend the further use of outside counsel, something that was actually briefly successful for that committee? >> yeah, i think both committees -- i think both the intelligence committee and the judiciary committee should make extensive use of outside counsel. and, of course, that's built into this resolution. >> mm-hmm. >> with a big change. the hearing with corey lewandowski that kind of went off the rails and came back on the rails when barry burke, a very skilled lawyer, questioned lewandowsky, that part of it came at the end of the hearing, brian. and the hard core people were still watching. what this resolution says today is that the expert questioning will come at the beginning of the hearing, in the first 90 minutes of those hearings, 45 for the democrats, 45 for the republicans.