had a shot at the nomination. i think she entered this as a kind of chaos candidate, and she does have a remarkable, and i think debate moderators and other democrats ought to ask her about this. she has a remarkable fluency with russian and syrian talking points. i think secretary clinton made an explosive charge, implied an explosive charge confirmed by one of her spokesmen that congressman gabbard is who she was talking about. and i think it needlessly elevated tulsi gabbard's profile. now gabbard can present herself as leading the anti-clinton, anti-establishment wing of a group of the democratic party. i think that was a self-inflicted wound and i think it was unwise for secretary clinton do that. >> if it's not a mess, it will do until the mess gets here. thank you for coming on. coming up for us, yet another consequential week as we said in this presidency. jon meacham will help us try to understand some of what we're looking at.