going to do what i want to do. and syria, erdogan came out and said that as pompeo was on his way over there. so what's the point of this? >> and i thought that was mayor pete's strongest defense tonight. and you know, you're right, eugene, that he is kind of smooth in the way he communicates. he's not rough around the edges. but there's an eloquence to it. >> he's got the eloquence. >> and i do think that there is some -- that his eloquence actually is authentic. i think he is -- it's a little bit like barack obama. that barack obama had an ability when he was speaking, especially in speeches, to kind of soar and inspire people. and i think mayor pete may do that. and listen -- >> no, look -- >> nobody had a really bad night tonight. i want to say that. nobody had a really bad night tonight. elizabeth, while she was -- you know, was getting atacked, it was tough for her, but she does really well at making her point.