but if you see more facts come out, if you see this process move forward, if the public changes a little bit over time, you might start to see some republican defections. so i think all of that is part and parcel of this strategy where you see a lot of the president's most vociferous defenders coming out today like you did in arguing about process. >> molly, it's great to have you. i guess i want to know about other disruptions the gop may try, and are they all going to work? is it possible they're going one way with disruptions while the numbers, as we just saw from kornacki, and polls matter in this area. >> yes. >> public awareness, public opinion is going the other way. >> well, first of all, the thing is how are the polls in the districts of those 31 democrats that won in seats that trump won in 2016? what are they hearing on the ground back home because as we've seen, the nrcc has targeted those districts, and you can go to their website. and i've talked to some folks at