we've been doing about other calls that went off the rails is that this group of people on the national security council, people who are often active duty military, intelligence operators, they're so much more used to keeping their mouth shut in a position of trust. what happens in the white house stays there. but now they've taken a new route. they're so frightened, they're coming forward. they're speaking. they're saying what's happened, because they feel a larger duty from what i can tell. and the larger duty is the obligation to tell the american public what's happening. >> anita, that takes your breath away too. and with you, we want to talk a turn to more of a political realm, and that's the reporting of your colleagues at politico that mike pence plans to start a series of anti-impeachment town halls, going after the democrats in these various districts, this wednesday in iowa. can you share the thinking behind these events? >> well, we've been -- actually, it's very interesting he's doing