do they view this as we have been down this road before or as potentially different? >> i think the president has anticipated this moment would happen. this is the first president we have ever had about whom there was talk about impeachment before he was inaug rated. at every stage in the last two and a half years people have raised the issue. the only thing really shocking or surprising is it has taken this long. it did happen fast once it started coming together. why are they so willing to release this transcript tomorrow? the president is clearly going down. he must think that this transcript if not exonerates him but is ambiguous enough that he can make an argument that there is not quid pro quo and not the sort of pressure that they had been writing about. he must think this is advantageous to him. similarly, we don't know yet