the republican brand and frankly the brand of conservatism which people seemingly are now trying to separate from republicanism. there was a time where conservative ideology was rooted in a political theory that was defensible. in the era of trump even conservatism is suffering from a branding crisis. what used to be ideology around freedom of health care has now turned into ripping away a safety net. a tax plan in conservative ideology that would reduce taxes for everybody has now been celebrating rigging the system toward the wealthy and accelerating the wealth gap. on immigration what was a law and order platform has turned into a xenophobic one. you can go down the list of where conservative ideology has been corrupted. and so the never-trumpers that are considering a primary challenge for me personally i don't think there's anything left to save. they remain in the fight but i've made the decision, there's nothing left to save. >> okay. so that gets your attention, donna edwards. so did this earlier today. you and i were talking in the break. often when donald trump goes after someone of the male persuasion it's to call them weak.