lawyers are lawyers in this case well under -- but was interesting about the in it is because ukrainian people is that of that that it's because of them that these these discussions discussions are even in play. even most military happen. most analysts thought military analysts thought that that russia would russia would achieve their military objective within achieve its days. that's not the military objective in days. case. now this is a different that is not the case. landscape. now it's a different landscape. certainly, certainly, this economic war is this economic war is meaningful meaningful, but we are on the but we are on brink and a brink -- were sunny in the middle of certainly on the brink of a cold war. a cold war. might be on the brink we might very well of a hot war be on the brink of a half. this if this is in play very carefully. doesn't play very and i think part of the carefully. weight we need a sigh thinking about what do we do since we're not going to put boots on the ground in ukraine. what can we do to what do we do to support the ukrainian support ukraine people? people? we give would we do to support them? we give them them everything they everything they want. want. and and that means we opened the door more if that means widely to nato, and these who opened the door more widely to the eu. they're already paying for it. they're paying for it with the blood. and it's a rigid process to get to the eu. it's a rigid process to get to nato. but it's a defensive