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more severe sanctions are expected tomorrow according to the white house. exactly what those measures look like remains to be seen. with us tonight, malcolm nance, author of special naval intelligence, cyber security, he is in ukraine tonight, has 35 years in the trade of counterterrorism and intelligence. and clint watts, west point graduate, army veteran, former fbi special agent and a distinguished research fellow at the foreign policy research institute. great to see both of you malcolm, i thank you for being up in the middle of the night with us. give us your sense on the ground, what you are feeling, what you are hearing and with the sense is about what sanctions may or may not accomplish. >> i've been here for over a month now. assessing the russian order of battle. mapping out the invasion routes that they would come into.

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