people will watch. >> we have been talking a lot, mark, about how former president has been dividing the gop. this issue about the president in particular. this was maryland governor larry hogan over the weekend. >> i'm concerned about the direction of the party in the country. i will make a decision about 2024 after i finish this job. >> so your considering it? >> i will certainly take a look at it after january 2023. >> i guess the big question mark is, is there really a lane for a moderate republican for a blue state to take on trump, or someone like him? >> you mean, for the truth, i sure hope so. i think i've been preaching for a long time that the problem with donald trump is that he does have a stranglehold on the base of the republican party. he controls the primaries, and will help likely win the nomination. but he can't win a general election. he couldn't win in 2020, and not only the presidency but the house and the senate. given what we know going forward, it is hard to know how