you can't govern the way he saw in the senate, or as vice president. he's gotta go out there and bragging talk about it. whether the stock market weathers executive orders on police reform, go and do it and talk about the good. >> do you agree? >> i do. i think you need to get out there. i think you need to brand yourself, and not let others brand-new. not with the republican party director messaging. i think it is about taking the whims, it's not the whole package but maybe it's a small executive order. maybe it's focusing on the fact that we got the build back better, part of, it the infrastructure built. highlighting on that. it's about the glass half full, not the glass half empty. at the same time, hustling. >> susan, i hear you on executive action. i still wonder, if there is a possibility of smaller pieces