trying to get their, for the people of west virginia. because that's a complete lie. >> minnesota congresswoman, not mincing words with me yesterday, when i asked her about joe manchin's no on the build back better act. manchin reportedly did extend a counter offer proposal that excluded several biden's priorities, but without the child tax credit provision. the senator was often quoted as saying he wasn't sure if he could go back home, and explain a vote for build back better. but critics point out that he now has to explain to more than 180,000 west virginia families, why he publicly walked away from talks to extend the popular child tax credit, we welcome back to the show. when eta, progressive -- former george w. bush's strategist and founder of country over party, good evening to both of you. there's a lot of places i want to start. there's a lot to cover.