gap that donald trump significantly, bring down that 30 point lead that he has, to maybe 15, 20%, they can claim some of that momentum and drive the narrative going into new hampshire. that's going to be more important for them than any kind of delegate -- at this point, to prove to people that their candidacy is resonating with caucus goers, with the american people, and that they have momentum moving forward. >> all right, congressman, then let's talk about nikki haley. she's had some momentum, but she's made a few, i just mean the statements lately between refusing to think slavery is a cause of the civil war, citing that she had black friends growing up. what effect, if any, might these statements have on her showing in iowa? >> none in the republican primary. sadly, it might actually help her. but i think obviously, we know in a general election and to persuadable voters, they look at nikki haley's recent statements and say, i thought you were somehow different than donald trump and ron desantis. but clearly, you are not.