watching, we are really watching this race for second place between ron desantis and nikki haley, to see who can come closest to donald trump. it remains the front runner. >> you know, brian, can you just break down a little bit for folks who may not be familiar with the iowa caucuses? obviously, caucusing takes a little time and in iowa, is this a winner situation? or is this a situation where someone could come in second or third place and still receive delegates to go toward that number that they need to be the republican nominee? >> i was iowa's a really unique state. we can talk about delegates, that becomes really important in later states. but in iowa, it's really about the media narrative. it's about who can claim momentum going into new hampshire? so, if you come into iowa and you perform better than expected, that's a win for you. so, if we're looking at the polls, ron desantis and nikki haley are about neck and neck. ron desantis is about 19%, nikki haley is about 16%. if either of them can close the