continue to move forward. this is a cycle. a lot of concern in this country with the pandemic. people have gone through a lot in the last 20 months, concerned about their health, concerned about their family, concerned about their job. and i think we're living in a time right now that we have to take it a day at a time and be patient with one another. >> there are still many, many open jobs. a lot of small business owners are saying, they've given up on trying to fill jobs. we know that immigration has been going down and the number of immigrant workers with h1-b visas just saw the worst drop in a decade. is that a contributing factor to the labor shortage? >> no, i think what's contributing to the labor short age is people are still concerned about the virus. we still don't have a strong system when it comes to child care in our system, that's a concern. we don't have a strong system about making sure who's taking care of our elderly and sick parents and grandparents. there are people worried about that. there are people worried about their health. that's why went we did the