all morning. i've been speaking to folks on both sides, jose, all morning. two individuals specifically, kristin hawkins, the president of students for life, and i'm reading it off my phone to make sure i get it right, shannon brewer, the clinical director at jackson women's health. under roe v. wade, the viability standard we all know is 24 weeks. the argument that's going to be made by the state of mississippi is that the viability center has now shifted to 15 weeks, which is what is part of the mississippi law. i spoke to kristen about the viability center and she believes, in fact, viability is at conception. let's take a listen to what she had to say. >> right now with medical technology, a fetus is not viable, meaning it cannot survive outside of the womb at 15 weeks. at students for life and within the pro-life movement, all my friends who are here today, we would say that your viability, though, doesn't determine your worth or your value, that you