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soft power, but in the last few days we see headlines about women being barred from kabul university, taliban going back to public hangings. can we still help the afghan people or not? do we actually have any influence? >> well, i think we certainly have influence in afghanistan, especially since the taliban government they want to have some level of legitimacy within the international community. it's important to note that before the fall august 15th that about three quarters of afghanistan's aid in the government relied on foreign money. so the taliban has already come out and said that they definitely want international aid, this he definitely want that legitimacy, however, their actions as you stated shows that they're not willing at least right now to, you know, show the world how they have changed from the taliban of the 1990s. certainly the way that women and girls are being treated is really abominable.

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