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the big question, we could conceivably in the next couple weeks get out the majority anyway of people we are trying to move. but clearly the execution has been very poor. >> if we can convince the taliban, admiral, what's the likelihood that could happen. this has been a tremendous win for them. >> indeed, it has, and let's reflect on the fact that for them to consolidate this win, the best thing that could happen is for the people who opposed them, who worked with us, to get out of the country. they have incentive to allow that to occur in my view. secondly, they're trying to present themselves as taliban 2.0, kinder, gentler, listening to better angels. i doubt that's how it is going to land in the coming weeks and months, but for the immediate period, stephanie, they want to project a sense of being in control. we could hopefully see them not

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