what is happening and belarus with lukashenko, and zelenskyy of course. >> this idea, this -- does not wholly at, up you, know he is losing influence, his wagner group has been -- like, that and felt more like a kind of cry to retain his autonomy. we know he's been very frustrated by bakhmut, we have discussed it, he initially, needed it felt more as if you are trying to make a point, and that kind of grew back in his face to some degree. for me, that probably explains why he is involved in moscow, and then certainly -- i suspect he bit off more than he could to. >> indeed, so. but, he is -- i mean, what is your interpretation of what you understand of the -- and how he managed to turn his