humanitarian aid. they will make gestures to show that they're not happy -- but their drive for the david part will be made sure the future. >> clearly, our defense budget are studying a we do have a role to play it tried to sort out the situation ukraine. i'm just wondering how much influence we really have. i understand the prime minister has seven data on thursday. but he has not been divided, i'd like joe biden today eu leaders summit on the same day. >> well, it away i don't think that's very surprising. given the remarks that he's been making over the weekend about comparing breast to the shrug of ukraine i read that we'll see that's desperately insulting added sensitive all around here. i'm afraid that we are not going to be helping to shape the agenda with our eu counterparts as we should be.