severe nears just as line head, joining us now is the environment journalist, fire operator, and the director of the campaign blood alliance. hi ian, thank you for joining us on the program. your reaction to the news? >> well, first of all, good morning. yes, it's very disappointing but given the background to how it's turned about there's a lot of mitch mac logic and reasoning here. i guess it's not a surprising but hopefully we can turn this around and it can be resubmitted in months to come. >> i can't begin to comprehend why they could not just sign this through. animals are such majestic creatures, and their endangered are today? >> yes, i think the first point to make, for me and for many other scientists conservationists people who