full standstill. that's how we saw, to get of the, next to go about half mullah took us 20 minutes at a certain point. officials are saying if yo haven't done your holida travel yet, if you haven't started it, now is not yet the time to begin. that if you do, be ver careful. this is a back end of th storm. folks are dealing with i buffalo right now is much wors than this. their iodice shuns where emergency crews are saying the can't get out in some of thi weather. tony executive saying tw thirds of their emergenc vehicles were actually stuck themselves trying to clear out the roads. travel bans in multipl jurisdictions. a much different situation they're experiencing than what we are going through here in michigan bottom line is, listen to your local officials. if they're advising you don' go on the road, stay off the road if you go on the, roads take i slow and keep it easy. things get checked in a moment when you're talking about wind and snow