said when he was asked why aren't there any black coaches, had, coaches general managers, at the time. he said because we give those jobs to the whites there would not be anything left for blacks to do. that is a statement that has been going on for quarterbacks for years. that to me, is a bigger story than the national football league is breaking through in that regard. perhaps kicking and screaming in some quarters. >> yeah, all credit should go and learn credible athletes, not the national football league. take a listen to a recent interview with the first black quarterback to win super bowl in 1988. >> you can play in college, and you can be one of the best in college. and when it comes to the national football league you may not be given an opportunity. the statement was, before i played football has always been it is a leadership position. the myth that a black i cannot think. >> talk more about that statement doug williams mentioned, and what it took to get to where we are now. >> i am very familiar with that